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‘Ramaphosa quoted out of context,’ says Mashatile on DA ‘running best municipalities’

Deputy President Paul Mashatile insists President Ramaphosa was ‘quoted out of context’ when he suggested the ANC could learn a thing or two from the DA’s clean audits, while simultaneously pointing out that clean audits don’t exactly translate to good governance for the residents of Khayelitsha.
‘Ramaphosa quoted out of context,’ says Mashatile on DA ‘running best municipalities’ Deputy President Paul Mashatile addresses MPs during a parliamentary question and answer session in Cape Town on 30 October 2025. (Photo: Fikile Marakalla / GCIS)

“The President was quoted out of context,” said Deputy President Paul Mashatile, over remarks made by President Cyril Ramaphosa that councillors from the ANC could take lessons from the DA-led City of Cape Town and Stellenbosch municipalities on their clean audits. 

Mashatile was responding to MPs on Thursday, 30 October, during a parliamentary question and answer session which focused on municipal governance and policing.

Deputy President Paul Mashatile defended President Cyril Ramaphosa, saying the President’s comments on DA-led municipalities were taken out of context. (Photo: Fikile Marakalla / GCIS)
Deputy President Paul Mashatile (centre) defended President Cyril Ramaphosa, saying the President’s comments on DA-led municipalities were taken out of context. (Photo: Fikile Marakalla / GCIS)

Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema questioned him about whether he had found that municipalities, mainly in the Western Cape, offered the best model for municipal governance. 

In September, addressing ANC councillors, President Cyril Ramaphosa said, “There’s nothing wrong with competition … [the best run municipalities] are often DA-controlled municipalities. We need to ask ourselves what it is that they are doing that is better than what we are doing.

“There’s nothing wrong with us saying we want to go and see what Cape Town is doing, what is Stellenbosch doing, how they craft everything,” said the President, as reported by the Mail & Guardian

Read more: ‘Without you doing anything, we are dead,’ Ramaphosa tells local ANC councillors

‘Out of context’

On Thursday, Mashatile said the president was “quoted out of context”.

He said Ramaphosa emphasised that “councillors should learn from one another – that’s where it started”.

Mashatile said many municipalities received clean audits. 

During the 2023/2024 audit cycle, 41 municipalities received clean audits. Many are either run outright by the DA or DA-led coalitions. The City of Cape Town (which is DA-led) was the only metro municipality that received a clean audit. 

Read more: Auditor-General sounds alarm on governance crisis in SA’s biggest cities, gives Cape Town the thumbs up

“But what he did not say was that the Western Cape [is] really the panacea for good governance and service delivery and everything; he was focusing on clean audits,” said Mashatile. 

“By the way, some of the municipalities that have clean audits are not necessarily in the Western Cape,” said the Deputy President. 

Mashatile said that Ramaphosa did not say “oh well, you know, the Western Cape knows it all”.

He said he would invite Malema to go with him next week to Khayelitsha, “because when you go to Khayelitsha and some of the townships and informal settlements in this province, I don’t see the good governance, of course”. 

The DA has consistently been criticised over a perceived lack of service delivery in largely former township areas such as Khayelitsha.

Read more: Informal settlement protesters demanding basic services shut down Cape Town’s Voortrekker Road

“So it’s one thing to say you’ve got a clean audit, but it’s one thing if you are changing the lives of people for the better, and that’s really where we must focus,” said Mashatile. 

Mashatile also blamed the media. “You know the media has got its own way of reporting. They are only focused on this issue, giving an impression that our President was praising the DA. That was not the case.” 

Townships and informal settlements

Earlier, Mashatile said, “While several municipalities in the Western Cape are doing well in terms of audit outcomes, it is important to note that there is a significant and persistent disparity between the wellbeing of many residents residing in townships and informal settlements of the province of the Western Cape.” 

He continued: “Although the province is often recognised for strong financial governance overall, this does not reflect the lived experience of many black communities, who continue to struggle with socioeconomic challenges. Therefore, Honourable Speaker, the Western Cape’s municipal governance model is not the best in the country.” 

This was met by uproar and laughter among MPs.

“I’m saying, therefore, the Western Cape’s municipal governance model is not the best in the country, as it fails to address the legacy of apartheid-era spatial segregation. The optimal model, Honourable Speaker, that we require is the one that would accommodate all individuals regardless of their race or colour,” said Mashatile.

The EFF and Patriotic Alliance asked him to repeat the statement, which Mashatile did. 

Read more: No place for old locals – Mayor Geordin Hill-Lewis defends vision for Cape Town

Mashatile’s Camps Bay house under scrutiny

When James Lorimer from the DA asked a question, he prefaced it with, “Deputy President, you know, if you only stay in upmarket luxury housing, you sometimes take things for granted and you’re not sure what to look for when you go and assess a poorer area like Khayelitsha.

“So when you go to Khayelitsha, look at the electricity which is supplied by the municipality, not by izinyoka [a term to refer to illegal electricity connections].”

Lorimer referred to Mashatile’s luxury mansion in Camps Bay, which has been under scrutiny after its ownership (linked to his family, which has alleged government tender connections) was first exposed by News24

“Look at the taps where, when you open them, water comes out. There are many tarred roads and there’s regular refuse removal.

“In fact, Cape Town has the largest provision of free electricity and water for indigent households in the country,” said Lorimer. 

He asked Mashatile if the Western Cape was not the best model of municipal governance.

Mashatile didn’t respond directly, but said, “If I go to Camps Bay, water comes out of the taps... no problem about that,” drawing a loud response from MPs. 

“When I go to Khayelitsha, it’s not the case. That’s the point I’m making.”

Mashatile said that scoring the DA out of 10, “Yeah, maybe in Camps Bay, I may give you six, but in Khayelitsha, Gugulethu, Bonteheuwel, Nyanga, Mitchell’s Plain, I give you zero.”

After Speaker Thoko Didiza had to calm MPs and then ask Mashatile to answer Lorimer’s question, the Deputy President said on the best model of municipal governance: “It’s certainly not the Western Cape.” 

He did not provide an alternative. DM

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  "contents": "<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“The President was quoted out of context,” said Deputy President Paul Mashatile, over remarks made by President Cyril Ramaphosa that councillors from the ANC could take lessons from the DA-led City of Cape Town and Stellenbosch municipalities on their clean audits. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mashatile was responding to MPs on Thursday, 30 October, during a parliamentary question and answer session which focused on municipal governance and policing.</span></p><figure style='float: none; margin: 5px; '><img loading=\"lazy\" src='https://cdn.dailymaverick.co.za/i/O9OO4Vx8qQCM7yq-wzakNtNpBJY=/200x100/smart/filters:strip_exif()/file/dailymaverick/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-30-at-15.37.49.jpeg' alt='Deputy President Paul Mashatile defended President Cyril Ramaphosa, saying the President’s comments on DA-led municipalities were taken out of context. 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(Photo: Fikile Marakalla / GCIS) </figcaption></figure><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema questioned him about whether he had found that municipalities, mainly in the Western Cape, offered the best model for municipal governance. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In September, addressing ANC councillors, President Cyril Ramaphosa said, “There’s nothing wrong with competition … [the best run municipalities] are often DA-controlled municipalities. We need to ask ourselves what it is that they are doing that is better than what we are doing.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“There’s nothing wrong with us saying we want to go and see what Cape Town is doing, what is Stellenbosch doing, how they craft everything,” said the President, as reported by the </span><a href=\"https://mg.co.za/politics/2025-09-15-da-governs-the-best-run-municipalities-ramaphosa-tells-anc-councillors/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mail &amp; Guardian</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. </span></p><p><b>Read more: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-09-15-without-you-doing-anything-we-are-dead-ramaphosa-tells-local-anc-councillors/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">‘Without you doing anything, we are dead,’ Ramaphosa tells local ANC councillors</span></a></p><h4><b>‘Out of context’</b></h4><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On Thursday, Mashatile said the president was “quoted out of context”.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He said Ramaphosa emphasised that “councillors should learn from one another – that’s where it started”.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mashatile said many municipalities received clean audits. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">During the 2023/2024 audit cycle, 41 municipalities received clean audits. Many are either run outright by the DA or DA-led coalitions. The City of Cape Town (which is DA-led) was the only metro municipality that received a clean audit. </span></p><p><b>Read more: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-05-28-auditor-general-sounds-alarm-on-governance-crisis-in-sas-biggest-cities-gives-cape-town-the-thumbs-up/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Auditor-General sounds alarm on governance crisis in SA’s biggest cities, gives Cape Town the thumbs up</span></a></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“But what he did not say was that the Western Cape [is] really the panacea for good governance and service delivery and everything; he was focusing on clean audits,” said Mashatile. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“By the way, some of the municipalities that have clean audits are not necessarily in the Western Cape,” said the Deputy President. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mashatile said that Ramaphosa did not say “oh well, you know, the Western Cape knows it all”.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He said he would invite Malema to go with him next week to Khayelitsha, “because when you go to Khayelitsha and some of the townships and informal settlements in this province, I don’t see the good governance, of course”. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The DA has consistently been criticised over a perceived lack of service delivery in largely former township areas such as Khayelitsha.</span></p><p><b>Read more: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-09-15-informal-settlement-protestors-demanding-basic-services-shut-down-cape-towns-voortrekker-road/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Informal settlement protesters demanding basic services shut down Cape Town’s Voortrekker Road</span></a></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“So it’s one thing to say you’ve got a clean audit, but it’s one thing if you are changing the lives of people for the better, and that’s really where we must focus,” said Mashatile. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mashatile also blamed the media. “You know the media has got its own way of reporting. They are only focused on this issue, giving an impression that our President was praising the DA. That was not the case.” </span></p><h4><b>Townships and informal settlements</b></h4><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Earlier, Mashatile said, “While several municipalities in the Western Cape are doing well in terms of audit outcomes, it is important to note that there is a significant and persistent disparity between the wellbeing of many residents residing in townships and informal settlements of the province of the Western Cape.” </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He continued: “Although the province is often recognised for strong financial governance overall, this does not reflect the lived experience of many black communities, who continue to struggle with socioeconomic challenges. Therefore, Honourable Speaker, the Western Cape’s municipal governance model is not the best in the country.” </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This was met by uproar and laughter among MPs.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“I’m saying, therefore, the Western Cape’s municipal governance model is not the best in the country, as it fails to address the legacy of apartheid-era spatial segregation. The optimal model, Honourable Speaker, that we require is the one that would accommodate all individuals regardless of their race or colour,” said Mashatile.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The EFF and Patriotic Alliance asked him to repeat the statement, which Mashatile did. </span></p><p><b>Read more: </b><a href=\"https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-10-13-no-place-for-old-locals-mayor-geordin-hill-lewis-defends-vision-for-cape-town/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No place for old locals – Mayor Geordin Hill-Lewis defends vision for Cape Town</span></a></p><h4><b>Mashatile’s Camps Bay house under scrutiny</b></h4><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When James Lorimer from the DA asked a question, he prefaced it with, “Deputy President, you know, if you only stay in upmarket luxury housing, you sometimes take things for granted and you’re not sure what to look for when you go and assess a poorer area like Khayelitsha.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“So when you go to Khayelitsha, look at the electricity which is supplied by the municipality, not by izinyoka [a term to refer to illegal electricity connections].”</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lorimer referred to Mashatile’s luxury mansion in Camps Bay, which has been under scrutiny after its ownership (linked to his family, which has alleged government tender connections) was first </span><a href=\"https://www.news24.com/investigations/mashatiles-r67m-mansions-parliament-says-no-to-request-for-access-to-declaration-20250924-0947\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">exposed by News24</span></a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“Look at the taps where, when you open them, water comes out. There are many tarred roads and there’s regular refuse removal.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“In fact, Cape Town has the largest provision of free electricity and water for indigent households in the country,” said Lorimer. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He asked Mashatile if the Western Cape was not the best model of municipal governance.</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mashatile didn’t respond directly, but said, “If I go to Camps Bay, water comes out of the taps... no problem about that,” drawing a loud response from MPs. </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">“When I go to Khayelitsha, it’s not the case. That’s the point I’m making.”</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mashatile said that scoring the DA out of 10, “Yeah, maybe in Camps Bay, I may give you six, but in Khayelitsha, Gugulethu, Bonteheuwel, Nyanga, Mitchell’s Plain, I give you zero.”</span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After Speaker Thoko Didiza had to calm MPs and then ask Mashatile to answer Lorimer’s question, the Deputy President said on the best model of municipal governance: “It’s certainly not the Western Cape.” </span></p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He did not provide an alternative. </span><b>DM</b></p>",
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Comments (10)

D'Esprit Dan Oct 31, 2025, 09:20 AM

Spendthrift Mashatile is a clueless, useless piece of political flotsam, with not one ouce of decency nor ability. He is the essence of the ANC: cannot do anything, cannot build anything, cannot contribute anything positive, hasn't had a job in decades, but lives in Cat Matlala-style luxury. How, Paul? And if not the Western Cape, can you point to ANC run provinces and municipalities that are better run? Eastern Cape? Mpumalanga? North West? Limpopo? Gauteng (haha!) What a disgrace!

Richard Baker Oct 31, 2025, 09:36 AM

History will show that the worst injustices perpetrated on South Africa and its citizens have come from being saddled with the incompetent and corrupt ANC. Mashatile laughable if it wasn’t so tragic.

Michael Thomlinson Oct 31, 2025, 10:29 AM

Mashatile talks about water supply in the poorer areas of Cape Town but in ANC controlled JHB even Sandton does not have water. I live in the EC but often travel through to the WC and Cptn and the difference is pronounced! We have so many traffic lights out, in PE, that we automatically start to treat Cptn's working traffic lights as 4 way stops!

Rob Shaw Oct 31, 2025, 01:28 PM

I do not believe that President Ramaposa was quoted out of context and the recording of his full speech/address should be transcribed, word for word, in order to clarify this issue.

Cape Doctor Oct 31, 2025, 02:22 PM

I ache for the Mashatile clan having to suffer the dysfunctional servivces and crumbling infrastructure in both Camps Bay and Constantia. I am sure they will move to East London as soon as they can get a reasonable price for their Cape Town homes.

Patterson Alan John Nov 1, 2025, 04:41 AM

Reality has a tendency to give the ANC really big bites in the bum! Mashatile could not answer the question, because the pain from the bite was so excruciating, it took his breath away!

Zonker Zoggs Nov 1, 2025, 06:06 AM

Another African National Clown, pathologically unable to admit any shortcomings, or opportunities to improve. As long as this continues to be the case, South Africa will continue it’s underwhelming trajectory.

todcam@worldonline.co.za Nov 1, 2025, 10:15 AM

I don't think Paul knows what quoted out of context actually means, just a thought

Johan Herholdt Nov 1, 2025, 11:03 AM

If its Paul, the context is always Alexandra-type thuggery and thievery as well as allowing friends and family "to eat" (as reported often in these pages).

Geoff Krige Nov 2, 2025, 10:22 AM

Interestingly while Mashatile ignorantly accuses the DA of perpetuating spatial inequality, he does not give any example of where the ANC has improved spatial inequality. In the North West where I live it has got rapidly worse in the years since Zuma was elected. ANC sanctioned water mafia steal municipal water and sell it at more than double what I pay throughout areas that once had municipal water laid on. ANC taxi mafia make traveling to work an expensive nightmare. And much more

wayne57 Nov 2, 2025, 01:42 PM

Mashatile is the epitome of ANC stupidity and dishonesty. He always brings up the townships and informal areas in CT as an example of DA selective service delivery. At least existing infrastructure has been maintained and efforts are made to improve teh under-privileged areas. The ANC has turned the whole of Jhb and Pretoria into a slum and the townships and underprivileged areas have got worse than they were and existing, working infrastructure has been destroyed. What a lying, thieving clown.